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		<title>Comment on A True Systems Analyst Defined by Pablo Cabrera</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/business-analysis/a-true-systems-analyst-defined/comment-page-1/#comment-3295</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This role reminds me of the scene from Office Space [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space]

Transcript taken from: [http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/o/office-space-script-transcript.html]

[Scene Initech. Bob Slydell and Bob Porter are interviewing Tom.]

BOB SLYDELL
So what you do is you take the specifications from the customers and 
you bring them down to the software engineers?

TOM
That, that&#039;s right.

BOB PORTER
Well, then I gotta ask, then why can&#039;t the customers just take the 
specifications directly to the software people, huh?

TOM
Well, uh, uh, uh, because, uh, engineers are not good at dealing with 
customers.

BOB SLYDELL
You physically take the specs from the customer?

TOM
Well, no, my, my secretary does that, or, or the fax.

BOB SLYDELL
Ah.

BOB PORTER
Then you must physically bring them to the software people.

TOM
Well...no. Yeah, I mean, sometimes.

BOB SLYDELL
Well, what would you say… you do here?

TOM
Well, look, I already told you. I deal with the goddamn customers so 
the engineers don&#039;t have to!! I have people skills!! I am good at 
dealing with people!!! Can&#039;t you understand that?!? WHAT THE HELL IS 
WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This role reminds me of the scene from Office Space [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space]</p>
<p>Transcript taken from: [http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/o/office-space-script-transcript.html]</p>
<p>[Scene Initech. Bob Slydell and Bob Porter are interviewing Tom.]</p>
<p>BOB SLYDELL<br />
So what you do is you take the specifications from the customers and<br />
you bring them down to the software engineers?</p>
<p>TOM<br />
That, that&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>BOB PORTER<br />
Well, then I gotta ask, then why can&#8217;t the customers just take the<br />
specifications directly to the software people, huh?</p>
<p>TOM<br />
Well, uh, uh, uh, because, uh, engineers are not good at dealing with<br />
customers.</p>
<p>BOB SLYDELL<br />
You physically take the specs from the customer?</p>
<p>TOM<br />
Well, no, my, my secretary does that, or, or the fax.</p>
<p>BOB SLYDELL<br />
Ah.</p>
<p>BOB PORTER<br />
Then you must physically bring them to the software people.</p>
<p>TOM<br />
Well&#8230;no. Yeah, I mean, sometimes.</p>
<p>BOB SLYDELL<br />
Well, what would you say… you do here?</p>
<p>TOM<br />
Well, look, I already told you. I deal with the goddamn customers so<br />
the engineers don&#8217;t have to!! I have people skills!! I am good at<br />
dealing with people!!! Can&#8217;t you understand that?!? WHAT THE HELL IS<br />
WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A True Systems Analyst Defined by Chuckie</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/business-analysis/a-true-systems-analyst-defined/comment-page-1/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few comments. 

First, I agree that the roles of System Analyst and Programmer are different, although it really wasn&#039;t that long ago that we had Programmer/Analysts who were responsible for system level requirement specification and design.

Second, while a System Analyst must be in tune with the business / people issues, a Business Analyst is more generally responsible for defining the business requirements / needs which are then handed over to a System Analyst. Often these two roles work hand in glove to ensure that the business specifications are properly translated into system specification that address the technical specification / design.

I would suggest that a System Analyst with a hands-on technical background may prove to be better overall than one who does not. While abstractions are certainly useful, bad assumptions can and will result if there is no grounding in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few comments. </p>
<p>First, I agree that the roles of System Analyst and Programmer are different, although it really wasn&#8217;t that long ago that we had Programmer/Analysts who were responsible for system level requirement specification and design.</p>
<p>Second, while a System Analyst must be in tune with the business / people issues, a Business Analyst is more generally responsible for defining the business requirements / needs which are then handed over to a System Analyst. Often these two roles work hand in glove to ensure that the business specifications are properly translated into system specification that address the technical specification / design.</p>
<p>I would suggest that a System Analyst with a hands-on technical background may prove to be better overall than one who does not. While abstractions are certainly useful, bad assumptions can and will result if there is no grounding in reality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A True Systems Analyst Defined by Patrick Davenport</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/business-analysis/a-true-systems-analyst-defined/comment-page-1/#comment-3292</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your general assessment. However I take exception to this paragraph:
&quot;Whereas a Systems Analyst is more of a generalist who is in tune with business and people, and tends to be somewhat extroverted in nature, the programmer is more in tune with technology and is very detail oriented as he/she must try to manage complexity. Because of this, the programmer tends to be more introverted. Whereas the Systems Analyst must look at the big picture, the programmer must focus on his/her piece of the puzzle. The two functions are totally different. To try to merge the two functions together does a disservice to both.&quot;

First, you had no real need to go into personality traits. Such a discussion does little more than distract from your topic at hand. A developer and an analyst are both problem solvers: some may solve a problem gregariously, some might sit quietly in a cube. The exact team role plays no real part in determining this. 

Second, a developer needs to see both the forest and the trees in order to ensure that the business isn&#039;t trying to make the system do something that it not supposed to do. To continue the analogy, if the system is supposed to be an Oak growing tree farm, a developer must know that in order to prevent the business from planting Pines. So too the analyst. However, as analysts tend to be higher than the transaction levels of the code, a developer needs to take corrective measures to prevent processes from flowing abnormally due to a business partner&#039;s larke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your general assessment. However I take exception to this paragraph:<br />
&#8220;Whereas a Systems Analyst is more of a generalist who is in tune with business and people, and tends to be somewhat extroverted in nature, the programmer is more in tune with technology and is very detail oriented as he/she must try to manage complexity. Because of this, the programmer tends to be more introverted. Whereas the Systems Analyst must look at the big picture, the programmer must focus on his/her piece of the puzzle. The two functions are totally different. To try to merge the two functions together does a disservice to both.&#8221;</p>
<p>First, you had no real need to go into personality traits. Such a discussion does little more than distract from your topic at hand. A developer and an analyst are both problem solvers: some may solve a problem gregariously, some might sit quietly in a cube. The exact team role plays no real part in determining this. </p>
<p>Second, a developer needs to see both the forest and the trees in order to ensure that the business isn&#8217;t trying to make the system do something that it not supposed to do. To continue the analogy, if the system is supposed to be an Oak growing tree farm, a developer must know that in order to prevent the business from planting Pines. So too the analyst. However, as analysts tend to be higher than the transaction levels of the code, a developer needs to take corrective measures to prevent processes from flowing abnormally due to a business partner&#8217;s larke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Java Garbage Collection by Ran Biron</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/java/java-garbage-collection/comment-page-1/#comment-3225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ran Biron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about CMS? G1?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about CMS? G1?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Programming Language is the Most Secure? by marek</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/tips/which-programming-language-is-the-most-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-3201</link>
		<dc:creator>marek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can write unsecure code in ANY language!

Some will argue that the languages thatdo things for you (like garbage collection) are actually worse, because they let you get lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can write unsecure code in ANY language!</p>
<p>Some will argue that the languages thatdo things for you (like garbage collection) are actually worse, because they let you get lazy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Programming Language is the Most Secure? by Ray</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/tips/which-programming-language-is-the-most-secure/comment-page-1/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think?  What is the most secured programming language used in your business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think?  What is the most secured programming language used in your business?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Software Development &#124; Java RMI by Links of the week &#124; Ani&#39;s Geeky Blog</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/java/programming-java-rmi/comment-page-1/#comment-3165</link>
		<dc:creator>Links of the week &#124; Ani&#39;s Geeky Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Java RMI [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Software Development &#124; Java RMI by Fırat</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/java/programming-java-rmi/comment-page-1/#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>Fırat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>syntax highlighting for code blocks can be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>syntax highlighting for code blocks can be nice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Business Intelligence For Small and Medium Sized Businesses by Aravind</title>
		<link>http://codingthis.com/business-intelligence/business-intelligence-for-small-and-medium-sized-businesses/comment-page-1/#comment-2726</link>
		<dc:creator>Aravind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 04:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray: Excellent article! It&#039;s indeed time SMBs start using BI tools and not just spreadsheets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray: Excellent article! It&#8217;s indeed time SMBs start using BI tools and not just spreadsheets.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alternatives to AJAX by EllisGL</title>
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		<dc:creator>EllisGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is SVG an alternative to AJAX? It&#039;s a graphics format.....</description>
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